{"id":133,"date":"2011-02-14T18:18:54","date_gmt":"2011-02-14T23:18:54","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/rud.is\/b\/?p=133"},"modified":"2017-05-13T21:17:45","modified_gmt":"2017-05-14T02:17:45","slug":"metricon-measuring-metrics-programs-why-arent-we","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/rud.is\/b\/2011\/02\/14\/metricon-measuring-metrics-programs-why-arent-we\/","title":{"rendered":"Metricon: Measuring Metrics Programs (Why Aren&#8217;t We?)"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Speaker: Jared Pfost (@JaredPfost)<\/p>\n<p>Framing: IT Security Metrics in an Enterprise<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>If metrics are valuable, why aren&#8217;t we measuring them. Virtually no research on them.<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p><strong>The Chase<\/strong><\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>Measuring metric program maturity would be easy, but not valuable<\/li>\n<li>Metric programs aren&#8217;t a priority for enough CISOs for a benchmark to matter<\/li>\n<li>Additional proof needed: correlate maturity and losses<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<blockquote>\n<p>Bottom line: <strong>which metrics impact actual loss?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p><strong>Make a Difference?<\/strong><\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>Metrics don&#8217;t matter to enough people<\/li>\n<li>Results would not inspire action<\/li>\n<li>We need benchmarking to commute security posture, key attributes of effective controls and hold control owners accountable with visibility<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>When you provide visibility into the efficacy of your environment it drives behaviour. 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